waitnwatch
06-09 01:27 AM
All,
I have been a passive follower on IV for few weeks now. I read the news clippings that people had posted where there was some Gautam Aggarwal who felt the point system was good. I see a press release from him that I saw floating around some mailing list.
Quite honestly even though lots of us disagree with him, he does make a very valid point. IV should consider clubbing US educated people such that 2 separate quotas can be created. Instead of banishing him as an elitist look at his point he is making by just marketing how the country is using the educated. Using a well respected university name is no different than talking about how we legals pay taxes etc. Just because we are educated and better of that the illegals as an argument is no less than elitism in that sense. I happened to go through gautamagg's post after the Guitrezz rally - read his message again sans tone. He makes a point. This CIR bill could have been good for us if we approached it positively looking at US educated people as a group too. Also his statement on the AP report about MPS being good is not totally incorrect in an environment where both EB and MPS may exist - if we can get that i.e. EB and MPS keeps both sides happy and we should fight for that. I emailed gautamagg and he did mention that the AP report cut out that part of his statement and told me to verify that with the reporter if I wished to. I think we guys need to be less passionate before we throw stones at others. IV is definitely doing a great job but people should share opinions openly on strategy - we are all humans and we may have missed an important aspect at IV - most IV folks seem to be non-US educated consultants and therefore disagree with Gautam. We really are 2 diff groups who want the same result with better partnership. My 2 cents. His press release:
For Immediate Press Release: May 28, 2007
“Grand Bargain” Immigration Bill creates issues for International Students in Economics, Finance and Business
Mountain View, CA – May 28, 2007 – The US Senate is actively debating the proposed “Bi-partisan Grand Bargain” Immigration Reform bill. While the bill does have many provisions to attract educated people from outside the US, it also creates restrictions for people with an economics/ finance background.
One of the proposals is to introduce an additional visa category for people coming to the US for graduate study. Though the proposed F-4 visa category is welcome by the international students’ community, it is unfavorable for people with a non-technical background or for people with a technical background who would like to gain additional skills outside of technology to be successful entrepreneurs. The proposed category, called the F-4 students visa, allows international students two major provisions that the existing student visa, the F-1, is restrictive in:
1. F-4 students do not have to prove a non-immigration intent. Unlike F-1 visa applicants, students coming on an F-4 visa will have the ability to have a “dual intent” at the time of applying for their visa, while entering the Unites States, or while maintaining their F-4 status in the US. Such students can have a pending Green Card (GC) application or can apply for one while on F-4 status. This is in contrast to the existing F-1 category in which a previous or current intent to immigrate to the United States negatively impacts a persons ability to obtain an F-1 visa.
2. Under the F-4 visa, instead of 12-months the students will have up to 24-months of Optional Practical Training (OPT) available after graduation. The larger time window will help students evaluate employment options while staying agnostic of visa issues.
The bill restricts the F-4 visa to people who would attend advanced degrees in the fields of Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics (STEM). Such limitation to STEM alone would negatively impact the inflow of international students to other graduate programs such as Finance, Economics, and Business. In today’s dynamic global economies, technology and business work together. Over a third of the MBA class in top US schools such as Wharton, Stanford, Harvard, and Cornell comes from a technology background. Restricting these provisions to STEM degrees alone will result in a severe shortage of highly skilled international students coming to the US for an MBA due to an advantage the STEM degree holders will have over them. This will impede the abilities of many “technologists” to obtain business and finance education and will reverse the positive trend in places such as the Silicon Valley where many engineers turn into successful entrepreneurs creating wealth and job opportunities for many Americans and add to America’s competitive edge.
While the Senate has shown foresight by introducing the F-4 visa that helps in retaining people with advanced education from the US, it remains a very myopic solution to the problem it intends to address. Next week, the Senate comes back from recess to discuss amendments to this bill, this press release appeals to the Senate to consider enhancing the provisions of the F-4 as well.
Note: Hundreds of people are affected by this already. With a Masters in Computer Science from Cornell University, 7-years of technology experience in the Silicon Valley, and after paying over $ 150,000 in taxes, Gautam, issuer of this Press release, may be unable to join his MBA class at The Wharton School this year. Because he had once started his Green Card process and established an “intent to immigrate”, it is difficult for him to reverse the process and obtain a students visa. Over 3-4 years of processing wait times has resulted in many people such as him to give-up their applications in lieu of additional education. But, their past intent looms over their very uncertain future: 22 of them have connected with each other and pray that their Indian Gods stay happy with them on the day of their student-visa interviews in India and that reason and common sense prevail.
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Contact:
Gautam Aggarwal
gautam.aggarwal@gmail.com
I would beg to differ on the issue of a Merit Based System being good for us and I have a US Ph.D in a STEM field with over 5 years of post degree experience.
I have calculated that a Masters in Computer Science with 5 years experience will get more points than a Ph.D in say Civil Engineering because of two reasons (1) Computer Science is a high demand field and Civil Engineering is not. (2) A Ph.D may take around 6-7 years to get and by the time this Ph.D gets 5 years experience he may be touching 40 and not even getting the points allotted to those under 40.
If you are a professor in Civil Engineering from India or China and even have tenure there is a big chance that you would not get a green card given that there will be a 10% country limit.
Wouldn't you think that such a system would be seriously flawed or do you think that Gautam is correct I am myopic.
IV may have a predominance of non US bachelors in its membership but most of its core have US degrees. So if you look at what IV backs you would find that even though they cannot fit in every individuals tailored requirements they very well realize what is for the greater good.
I have been a passive follower on IV for few weeks now. I read the news clippings that people had posted where there was some Gautam Aggarwal who felt the point system was good. I see a press release from him that I saw floating around some mailing list.
Quite honestly even though lots of us disagree with him, he does make a very valid point. IV should consider clubbing US educated people such that 2 separate quotas can be created. Instead of banishing him as an elitist look at his point he is making by just marketing how the country is using the educated. Using a well respected university name is no different than talking about how we legals pay taxes etc. Just because we are educated and better of that the illegals as an argument is no less than elitism in that sense. I happened to go through gautamagg's post after the Guitrezz rally - read his message again sans tone. He makes a point. This CIR bill could have been good for us if we approached it positively looking at US educated people as a group too. Also his statement on the AP report about MPS being good is not totally incorrect in an environment where both EB and MPS may exist - if we can get that i.e. EB and MPS keeps both sides happy and we should fight for that. I emailed gautamagg and he did mention that the AP report cut out that part of his statement and told me to verify that with the reporter if I wished to. I think we guys need to be less passionate before we throw stones at others. IV is definitely doing a great job but people should share opinions openly on strategy - we are all humans and we may have missed an important aspect at IV - most IV folks seem to be non-US educated consultants and therefore disagree with Gautam. We really are 2 diff groups who want the same result with better partnership. My 2 cents. His press release:
For Immediate Press Release: May 28, 2007
“Grand Bargain” Immigration Bill creates issues for International Students in Economics, Finance and Business
Mountain View, CA – May 28, 2007 – The US Senate is actively debating the proposed “Bi-partisan Grand Bargain” Immigration Reform bill. While the bill does have many provisions to attract educated people from outside the US, it also creates restrictions for people with an economics/ finance background.
One of the proposals is to introduce an additional visa category for people coming to the US for graduate study. Though the proposed F-4 visa category is welcome by the international students’ community, it is unfavorable for people with a non-technical background or for people with a technical background who would like to gain additional skills outside of technology to be successful entrepreneurs. The proposed category, called the F-4 students visa, allows international students two major provisions that the existing student visa, the F-1, is restrictive in:
1. F-4 students do not have to prove a non-immigration intent. Unlike F-1 visa applicants, students coming on an F-4 visa will have the ability to have a “dual intent” at the time of applying for their visa, while entering the Unites States, or while maintaining their F-4 status in the US. Such students can have a pending Green Card (GC) application or can apply for one while on F-4 status. This is in contrast to the existing F-1 category in which a previous or current intent to immigrate to the United States negatively impacts a persons ability to obtain an F-1 visa.
2. Under the F-4 visa, instead of 12-months the students will have up to 24-months of Optional Practical Training (OPT) available after graduation. The larger time window will help students evaluate employment options while staying agnostic of visa issues.
The bill restricts the F-4 visa to people who would attend advanced degrees in the fields of Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics (STEM). Such limitation to STEM alone would negatively impact the inflow of international students to other graduate programs such as Finance, Economics, and Business. In today’s dynamic global economies, technology and business work together. Over a third of the MBA class in top US schools such as Wharton, Stanford, Harvard, and Cornell comes from a technology background. Restricting these provisions to STEM degrees alone will result in a severe shortage of highly skilled international students coming to the US for an MBA due to an advantage the STEM degree holders will have over them. This will impede the abilities of many “technologists” to obtain business and finance education and will reverse the positive trend in places such as the Silicon Valley where many engineers turn into successful entrepreneurs creating wealth and job opportunities for many Americans and add to America’s competitive edge.
While the Senate has shown foresight by introducing the F-4 visa that helps in retaining people with advanced education from the US, it remains a very myopic solution to the problem it intends to address. Next week, the Senate comes back from recess to discuss amendments to this bill, this press release appeals to the Senate to consider enhancing the provisions of the F-4 as well.
Note: Hundreds of people are affected by this already. With a Masters in Computer Science from Cornell University, 7-years of technology experience in the Silicon Valley, and after paying over $ 150,000 in taxes, Gautam, issuer of this Press release, may be unable to join his MBA class at The Wharton School this year. Because he had once started his Green Card process and established an “intent to immigrate”, it is difficult for him to reverse the process and obtain a students visa. Over 3-4 years of processing wait times has resulted in many people such as him to give-up their applications in lieu of additional education. But, their past intent looms over their very uncertain future: 22 of them have connected with each other and pray that their Indian Gods stay happy with them on the day of their student-visa interviews in India and that reason and common sense prevail.
###
Contact:
Gautam Aggarwal
gautam.aggarwal@gmail.com
I would beg to differ on the issue of a Merit Based System being good for us and I have a US Ph.D in a STEM field with over 5 years of post degree experience.
I have calculated that a Masters in Computer Science with 5 years experience will get more points than a Ph.D in say Civil Engineering because of two reasons (1) Computer Science is a high demand field and Civil Engineering is not. (2) A Ph.D may take around 6-7 years to get and by the time this Ph.D gets 5 years experience he may be touching 40 and not even getting the points allotted to those under 40.
If you are a professor in Civil Engineering from India or China and even have tenure there is a big chance that you would not get a green card given that there will be a 10% country limit.
Wouldn't you think that such a system would be seriously flawed or do you think that Gautam is correct I am myopic.
IV may have a predominance of non US bachelors in its membership but most of its core have US degrees. So if you look at what IV backs you would find that even though they cannot fit in every individuals tailored requirements they very well realize what is for the greater good.
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ssd213
04-09 01:43 PM
I will send you a PM tonight
I tend to collect a list of recruiters as they keep calling me and of late i had a few who are looking for front office IT folks, will send their contacts from my personal email (dont have acess to it at work). also will send my email address, so I can try your resume at my firm
I tend to collect a list of recruiters as they keep calling me and of late i had a few who are looking for front office IT folks, will send their contacts from my personal email (dont have acess to it at work). also will send my email address, so I can try your resume at my firm
whiteStallion
09-10 04:49 PM
Any updates ?
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Totoro
05-03 05:07 PM
Hi Totoro,
please be so kind and explain me what exactly shall I say to the SSN Office about why I apply for SSN non-work. If they ask me to proof that I need a SSN to get Economic Stimulus Payment, what shell I do??
How is posible to get a SSN non-work to get Economic Stimulus Payment if you didn't work. How can you make tax return without to work. ?? Sorry for all this question but I really don't understand. But i'm shure that you will be very nice and you will explain me how it's work.
Thank you,
lelica
As long as you qualify for the stimulus payment, you can get a non-work SSN. You qualify as long as you are in the income levels specified, were a resident of the US in 2007 (substantial presence), and were in the US legally (have a valid visa). If you did not file a tax return, then you cannot apply for the SSN.
As far as the Social Security Act is concerned, the law states that they MUST give you a SSN if you qualify for any federally funded benefit. The question is: Is the Economic Stimulus Payment a federal funded benefit. The information in my original post makes a very strong case that it is.
Please post your experiences here, even if you are denied. Remember, the folks in the local SSA offices are bureaucrats, not lawyers, or judges, so don't expect much cooperation. However, if they deny you application, simply write them a short letter saying that you disagree and that you are requesting a "reconsideration."
please be so kind and explain me what exactly shall I say to the SSN Office about why I apply for SSN non-work. If they ask me to proof that I need a SSN to get Economic Stimulus Payment, what shell I do??
How is posible to get a SSN non-work to get Economic Stimulus Payment if you didn't work. How can you make tax return without to work. ?? Sorry for all this question but I really don't understand. But i'm shure that you will be very nice and you will explain me how it's work.
Thank you,
lelica
As long as you qualify for the stimulus payment, you can get a non-work SSN. You qualify as long as you are in the income levels specified, were a resident of the US in 2007 (substantial presence), and were in the US legally (have a valid visa). If you did not file a tax return, then you cannot apply for the SSN.
As far as the Social Security Act is concerned, the law states that they MUST give you a SSN if you qualify for any federally funded benefit. The question is: Is the Economic Stimulus Payment a federal funded benefit. The information in my original post makes a very strong case that it is.
Please post your experiences here, even if you are denied. Remember, the folks in the local SSA offices are bureaucrats, not lawyers, or judges, so don't expect much cooperation. However, if they deny you application, simply write them a short letter saying that you disagree and that you are requesting a "reconsideration."
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nixstor
06-24 05:47 PM
Just called.
The lady's voice lit up when I told her I was from San Antonio. She took down my information and zip code.
She told me that she has informed other callers to also ask people from Mr. Smit's district to call. That would be more effective.
June05,
Encourage your friends to call for themselves and your co workers on your behalf.
if you can talk to your boss and have him/her call on behalf of your organization explaining the difficulty, its even better.
The lady's voice lit up when I told her I was from San Antonio. She took down my information and zip code.
She told me that she has informed other callers to also ask people from Mr. Smit's district to call. That would be more effective.
June05,
Encourage your friends to call for themselves and your co workers on your behalf.
if you can talk to your boss and have him/her call on behalf of your organization explaining the difficulty, its even better.
gcsucks
07-01 06:51 AM
I'm bachelor's, EB3 with I140 approved. Does this bill include I485 filing for me ? and also for 3 year validity for Travel docs ?
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belmontboy
03-26 12:38 PM
***
The Indian CRAB is the story of how a fisherman kept a basket with crabs, uncovered. When asked, he replied " They’re Indian Crabs - If one tries to climb out, the others will pull it back in, hence there’s no need for a lid "
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The Indian CRAB - Contribute - MSNIndia (http://content.msn.co.in/MSNContribute/Story.aspx?PageID=222e21f3-f981-4a9c-9f9b-a5706f249433)
Please remove the link to this crab crap.
Jealousy is a human personality trait. It's present in people of other countries too.
It's ridiculous to attribute this trait only to Indians.
On a side note:
How do you decide the nationality of the crabs? Do they have passports??
Don't just copy paste something an imbecile moron wrote and forward to ur friends and colleagues demeaning yourself and fellow Indians.
Think think think......
The Indian CRAB is the story of how a fisherman kept a basket with crabs, uncovered. When asked, he replied " They’re Indian Crabs - If one tries to climb out, the others will pull it back in, hence there’s no need for a lid "
***
The Indian CRAB - Contribute - MSNIndia (http://content.msn.co.in/MSNContribute/Story.aspx?PageID=222e21f3-f981-4a9c-9f9b-a5706f249433)
Please remove the link to this crab crap.
Jealousy is a human personality trait. It's present in people of other countries too.
It's ridiculous to attribute this trait only to Indians.
On a side note:
How do you decide the nationality of the crabs? Do they have passports??
Don't just copy paste something an imbecile moron wrote and forward to ur friends and colleagues demeaning yourself and fellow Indians.
Think think think......
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psaxena
09-30 02:10 PM
Is this a serious discussion on the immigration portal about airlines.
Why don't you shut the fuck up!!@#@# and get on with your "SERIOUS DISCUSSION" about AI, Vonage,Lingo, Shahrukh Khan etc etc etc..
Serious!! yeah damn serious to be on this forum... guy like you are a shame and disgrace to the whole community where they just can't contribute but yes can definitely try to distract, deviate and derail the efforts.
You got all this bashing for the reason, I dun consider this conversation as "SERIOUS" and was trying to add up humor to lighten up the thread. But the A**H***E like you and other 2( who gave you the green on the comment) are totally stupids to understand on where to discuss what.
I am proud donor of IV, if that makes you feel ashamed when you look at the mirror, then I can't help you.
Guys like you are a disgrace.
When a serious discussion is going on, do you really have to post??
Just shut up and donate to IV by selling your jet!
Why don't you shut the fuck up!!@#@# and get on with your "SERIOUS DISCUSSION" about AI, Vonage,Lingo, Shahrukh Khan etc etc etc..
Serious!! yeah damn serious to be on this forum... guy like you are a shame and disgrace to the whole community where they just can't contribute but yes can definitely try to distract, deviate and derail the efforts.
You got all this bashing for the reason, I dun consider this conversation as "SERIOUS" and was trying to add up humor to lighten up the thread. But the A**H***E like you and other 2( who gave you the green on the comment) are totally stupids to understand on where to discuss what.
I am proud donor of IV, if that makes you feel ashamed when you look at the mirror, then I can't help you.
Guys like you are a disgrace.
When a serious discussion is going on, do you really have to post??
Just shut up and donate to IV by selling your jet!
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paskal
09-29 04:47 PM
then why are visas about to be wasted yet again this year?
after...they said all numbers were exhausted on July 2?
i think it's not quite that simple.
there is no doubt that lack of numbers is a key key issue. but letting uscis off the hook when they have failed to process 269,000 Green Card numbers since 1994 is not kosher. that is >20% of the backlog right there.
my straightforward NIW application based on national interest service not exceptional ability (which may be more subjective) will take almost a year to process. wow....!
uscis also takes the narrowest interpretations of any law- even when it clearly conflicts with the law's intent- then it takes a lawsuit to budge them- speaking from personal experience and the loss of 4 years in PD in an India line...believe me this is not an agency i feel like defending.
just my 2c.
after...they said all numbers were exhausted on July 2?
i think it's not quite that simple.
there is no doubt that lack of numbers is a key key issue. but letting uscis off the hook when they have failed to process 269,000 Green Card numbers since 1994 is not kosher. that is >20% of the backlog right there.
my straightforward NIW application based on national interest service not exceptional ability (which may be more subjective) will take almost a year to process. wow....!
uscis also takes the narrowest interpretations of any law- even when it clearly conflicts with the law's intent- then it takes a lawsuit to budge them- speaking from personal experience and the loss of 4 years in PD in an India line...believe me this is not an agency i feel like defending.
just my 2c.
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sobers
06-29 09:44 PM
awesome news logiclife!
whether folks like immigration or not, there is growing realization that the country needs people with the right skills. its a question of competitiveness.
I mean if i were running a corporation, I would get the best person for the job irrespective of where he comes from. A company is only as good as the people working for it- its as simple as that.
IV's CIR amendments can definately improve this bill....hope they are incorporated. As ones suffering from the backlogs and retrogression, we know what will be helpful..hopefully they listen to us too while they formulate policy about us.
whether folks like immigration or not, there is growing realization that the country needs people with the right skills. its a question of competitiveness.
I mean if i were running a corporation, I would get the best person for the job irrespective of where he comes from. A company is only as good as the people working for it- its as simple as that.
IV's CIR amendments can definately improve this bill....hope they are incorporated. As ones suffering from the backlogs and retrogression, we know what will be helpful..hopefully they listen to us too while they formulate policy about us.
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seahawks
09-22 04:18 AM
No need to jump the gun. I didn't ask it at a personal level, in case you didn't understand it! Instead of nitpicking on a single statement, read the whole paragraph! I am a member of a state chapter and keep posting on the Yahoogroups, though it's been a month since anyone else posted there ( and I don't get any replies).
I'm not getting into personal level/ad hominem discussion as it's pointless. I don't need to prove anything to anybody.
Here is the deal, the idea of state chapters is for grass roots organization. We can't reach out to everyone if we don't have remote hubs, it is as simple as that. We recently revived the WA state chapter and I keep sending emails, one or two respond, the rest are silent readers. However they did join the group and we are now 30+ members. Now, we plan to have a conference call and then we are planning to get together within 2 weeks to meet all of these members. No one is forced, but we would send out and invitation to every member. Then we come out with certain agendas and action items that fall within IV goals. Like one of the main things is to meet local law makers within each state for follow up. This is best done at state level. So I understand the part that you care confused is nothing is happening and you just keep writing. I know the feeling but can you get everyone together, can you get to meet them one by one. Trust me, once you get the ball rolling, before you know, you will have a big strong chapter that makes it easier to pass targeted messages and so on. When IV events are held in a national level, information and action items can be distributed to state chapter leaders who can then follow up.
But yes, it is hard work in the beginning to get every one on board, trust me, I am fighting the same battle, but hard work pays off!
I'm not getting into personal level/ad hominem discussion as it's pointless. I don't need to prove anything to anybody.
Here is the deal, the idea of state chapters is for grass roots organization. We can't reach out to everyone if we don't have remote hubs, it is as simple as that. We recently revived the WA state chapter and I keep sending emails, one or two respond, the rest are silent readers. However they did join the group and we are now 30+ members. Now, we plan to have a conference call and then we are planning to get together within 2 weeks to meet all of these members. No one is forced, but we would send out and invitation to every member. Then we come out with certain agendas and action items that fall within IV goals. Like one of the main things is to meet local law makers within each state for follow up. This is best done at state level. So I understand the part that you care confused is nothing is happening and you just keep writing. I know the feeling but can you get everyone together, can you get to meet them one by one. Trust me, once you get the ball rolling, before you know, you will have a big strong chapter that makes it easier to pass targeted messages and so on. When IV events are held in a national level, information and action items can be distributed to state chapter leaders who can then follow up.
But yes, it is hard work in the beginning to get every one on board, trust me, I am fighting the same battle, but hard work pays off!
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santb1975
04-26 01:42 AM
Thankyou
I just emailed 8 friends asking for contributions and sent them the link to this thread. Let us try and get 2 extra people along with each one of us.
I just emailed 8 friends asking for contributions and sent them the link to this thread. Let us try and get 2 extra people along with each one of us.
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raju123
02-12 01:08 PM
Trust IV.
Interim agenda is not only agenda of IV. They tried, other powerful organize also tried but no body succeeded. They don't want to give any thing out of CIR.
Trust IV
We have discussed a lot about things in this forum. Every person came up different thought, links etc and moreover our goal of adding I-485 in this feb bill.
After reading all the post mentioned by IV core, it is clear that no one can do anyting about it, there is no lobbyist that can force this to happen
So our struggle is useless, some may not agree to it because, they say they are pushing and trying to make voice that can be heard by the congress.
Congress did not listen to those million illegals on what grounds we expect our voice to be heard.
I say it again, our struggle is useless. When they wish then only something might happen.
ASTA LA VISTA
Interim agenda is not only agenda of IV. They tried, other powerful organize also tried but no body succeeded. They don't want to give any thing out of CIR.
Trust IV
We have discussed a lot about things in this forum. Every person came up different thought, links etc and moreover our goal of adding I-485 in this feb bill.
After reading all the post mentioned by IV core, it is clear that no one can do anyting about it, there is no lobbyist that can force this to happen
So our struggle is useless, some may not agree to it because, they say they are pushing and trying to make voice that can be heard by the congress.
Congress did not listen to those million illegals on what grounds we expect our voice to be heard.
I say it again, our struggle is useless. When they wish then only something might happen.
ASTA LA VISTA
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unklevo
08-19 04:15 PM
Anyone knows a good immigration lawyer in Illnois?
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logiclife
05-31 05:06 PM
True, But I guess everyone is trying to hold on to any or all of these fading rays of hope.
On a lighter note, I did watch sausages being made, and I can't eat them anymore.
There are uglier things than sausages being made. For example, when Bernie Sanders gave a 30 minute speech to increase H1B fees and make H1B program useless, he brought a big chart and the whole enchilada to try to prove that H1B depresses wages.
However, in the starting part of his speech, he said he supports the bill.
The bill brings in 200,000 guest-workers each year (it was 400,000 before Bingaman amendment). However, according to him, that is just fine. When guest-workers come to US in numbers like 200,000 then they dont depress wages of the lowest income group in America. However, when hi-tech workers come here they depress wages.
This is the kind of logic from people like Bernie Sanders and Co. that is uglier than watching sausages being made. Watching sausages being made might hurt your eyes, but this kind of logic hurts your head and can damage your brain's neurons.
On a lighter note, I did watch sausages being made, and I can't eat them anymore.
There are uglier things than sausages being made. For example, when Bernie Sanders gave a 30 minute speech to increase H1B fees and make H1B program useless, he brought a big chart and the whole enchilada to try to prove that H1B depresses wages.
However, in the starting part of his speech, he said he supports the bill.
The bill brings in 200,000 guest-workers each year (it was 400,000 before Bingaman amendment). However, according to him, that is just fine. When guest-workers come to US in numbers like 200,000 then they dont depress wages of the lowest income group in America. However, when hi-tech workers come here they depress wages.
This is the kind of logic from people like Bernie Sanders and Co. that is uglier than watching sausages being made. Watching sausages being made might hurt your eyes, but this kind of logic hurts your head and can damage your brain's neurons.
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willIWill
06-10 04:40 PM
Guys many have missed an important part of the bulletin. The Family based section , where F2A has advanced to July 2008 and also the below quoted excerpt from Dos in the Visa bulletin.
What this means is that there are a lot more of the family based visas which may not be used before the FY end. These visas will be included in the next years EB visas(for all EB's including Eb3). For 2010 we got about 9-10K excess. For FY 2011 that number will be significant. Also look at the murthy article on the FB visa subject.
MurthyDotCom : CIS Ombudsman's Office Addresses Key Issues (http://www.murthy.com/news/n_ombkey.html)
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D. VISA AVAILABILITY IN THE FAMILY-SPONSORED CATEGORIES
There continues to be extremely rapid forward movement of most Family preference cut-off dates. This is a direct result of the lack of demand by potential applicants who have chosen not to pursue final action on their cases, or who may no longer be eligible for status. The rapid movement provides the best opportunity to maximize number use under the FY-2010 annual numerical limitations. Should applicants eventually decide to pursue action on their cases it will have a significant impact on the cut-off dates.
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What this means is that there are a lot more of the family based visas which may not be used before the FY end. These visas will be included in the next years EB visas(for all EB's including Eb3). For 2010 we got about 9-10K excess. For FY 2011 that number will be significant. Also look at the murthy article on the FB visa subject.
MurthyDotCom : CIS Ombudsman's Office Addresses Key Issues (http://www.murthy.com/news/n_ombkey.html)
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D. VISA AVAILABILITY IN THE FAMILY-SPONSORED CATEGORIES
There continues to be extremely rapid forward movement of most Family preference cut-off dates. This is a direct result of the lack of demand by potential applicants who have chosen not to pursue final action on their cases, or who may no longer be eligible for status. The rapid movement provides the best opportunity to maximize number use under the FY-2010 annual numerical limitations. Should applicants eventually decide to pursue action on their cases it will have a significant impact on the cut-off dates.
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vjkypally
11-15 01:31 PM
Flower campaign wasnt started by iv (atleast not by the seniors), it slowly gathered momentum on its own and produced results. After seeing this bulletin I ve lost hope in all this lobbying and stuff. We need publicity and more of it. Fasting for a day if organized by iv could bring more results.
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gonecrazyonh4
04-06 12:11 PM
I would like to share my story with other H4 hopefuls and immigration voice.
I came to this country 2 years back. I am well qualified and had an excellent job in Bangalore with more than 4 years of experience in HR. After coming here I have not been able to get an employer to sponsor H1B Visa mainly because my skills sets are not in high demand occupation like Computers/technology but in Human Resource Management. I passed the professional certifications in HR in USA within 6 months of landing here and did get a number of job offers but was unable to take them up because I do not have an EAD.
In fact even my old company in Bangalore where I worked offered me a position here in their office and job offer is still on -provided I have a employment authorization. They are not keen to sposor H1b visa as they consider it too much of a hassle for a non tech employee.Also with the visa cap there are many hurdles to get through to get the H1B visa. Meanwhile our LC is in the backlog center and we are unable to move forward. My husband has received MBA admissions in some top schools in USA. But he had to give it up because of the GC process which seems to have now come to a stand still. When people who has come here illegally (if the bill passes) can now work legally - we who has come here legally and has followed all the rules are not given a chance to contribute to the economy and better our quality of life.
we are not going to go back -our GC is in process - so why shouldnt we be given a change to work while we wait for years for the process to be through. I feel that I have already lost my most productive years where I could have steered my career to H4 Visa rules.
I request Immigration voice to work on the issue of H4 work authorization.
I came to this country 2 years back. I am well qualified and had an excellent job in Bangalore with more than 4 years of experience in HR. After coming here I have not been able to get an employer to sponsor H1B Visa mainly because my skills sets are not in high demand occupation like Computers/technology but in Human Resource Management. I passed the professional certifications in HR in USA within 6 months of landing here and did get a number of job offers but was unable to take them up because I do not have an EAD.
In fact even my old company in Bangalore where I worked offered me a position here in their office and job offer is still on -provided I have a employment authorization. They are not keen to sposor H1b visa as they consider it too much of a hassle for a non tech employee.Also with the visa cap there are many hurdles to get through to get the H1B visa. Meanwhile our LC is in the backlog center and we are unable to move forward. My husband has received MBA admissions in some top schools in USA. But he had to give it up because of the GC process which seems to have now come to a stand still. When people who has come here illegally (if the bill passes) can now work legally - we who has come here legally and has followed all the rules are not given a chance to contribute to the economy and better our quality of life.
we are not going to go back -our GC is in process - so why shouldnt we be given a change to work while we wait for years for the process to be through. I feel that I have already lost my most productive years where I could have steered my career to H4 Visa rules.
I request Immigration voice to work on the issue of H4 work authorization.
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gconmymind
05-01 03:09 PM
Only about 100 people have contributed so far...come on guys...
elliptic
05-11 11:12 PM
A. You will need to wait until you file your 2008 income tax return to claim the economic stimulus payment. [New 4/14/08]
You file your 2008 return in 2009.
This I understand. But one needs the SSN already in 2008 as mentioned in
the sentence which you quoted. This makes sense: The 2008 tax can only
depend on your status in 2008. One has to qualify for the benefit in 2008.
You file your 2008 return in 2009.
This I understand. But one needs the SSN already in 2008 as mentioned in
the sentence which you quoted. This makes sense: The 2008 tax can only
depend on your status in 2008. One has to qualify for the benefit in 2008.
dagabaaj
09-25 12:47 PM
If approached in the right way there is a chance that big law firms will be helpful to us. The way to do this is politely, not raising a stink, with a credible number of their clients supporting us. The big law firms could act as a "force multiplier" to use a military term, only a small fraction of the community currently know about us, the big law firms and USCIS are the common connection for EB GC process, and USCIS is not about to email all their customers about us. With the right encouragement law firms might just help.
If they have members reading forums great. However, please do be civil.
I do understand the need to vent and rant sometimes. My personal guide is not to post anything that I do not want to be publicly (or legally) held to. Also a balanced constructive post is useful for all. So I place my full name in my signature.
Now when explained like this anyone would understand. Also do see the point you are making and is worth a try. Is the core team looking into this? Do they need any assitance from us?
If they have members reading forums great. However, please do be civil.
I do understand the need to vent and rant sometimes. My personal guide is not to post anything that I do not want to be publicly (or legally) held to. Also a balanced constructive post is useful for all. So I place my full name in my signature.
Now when explained like this anyone would understand. Also do see the point you are making and is worth a try. Is the core team looking into this? Do they need any assitance from us?
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