apb
09-07 06:07 PM
Scene at Consulate
IO:--> Dear applicant, You can apply for a long process to getting your PR/GC and here are the deals. Apply with high fees. Get RFE answered within limited time frame or loose. Wait for labor (go through labor pain..:-) ), do not get/expect promotion, Oh ya get your well educated spouse, Make them sit at home, make them feel unproductive, pay all your taxes, pay your social security BUT do not expect anything back, In the process if your kids age out separate them from you (send them back), If you wish to study pay highest fees, if you get promoted stand in queue again, pay frequent medical fees, AP, EAD fees, and yes YOU can always TRACK RNs for them. You can whine, post your opinions, when we change policies on the fly and create more hardships even if you have stayed here for more than 6 years, you can call up our customer service, be imaginative and get to level 2 and still get yelled at, asked to wait for 90 days (std reply), etc, but you can always go to good forum like IV and instead of working on your cause, create confusion, DEMAND action, not contribute....etc.
H1B applicant:--> SO WHAT IS THE CATCH.
IO:--> YOU THA MAN. Welcome to USA. Land of the free home of the brave. But for you there will be no freedom and for your type..stay in fear.
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Hope one more catch the vision of IV
IO:--> Dear applicant, You can apply for a long process to getting your PR/GC and here are the deals. Apply with high fees. Get RFE answered within limited time frame or loose. Wait for labor (go through labor pain..:-) ), do not get/expect promotion, Oh ya get your well educated spouse, Make them sit at home, make them feel unproductive, pay all your taxes, pay your social security BUT do not expect anything back, In the process if your kids age out separate them from you (send them back), If you wish to study pay highest fees, if you get promoted stand in queue again, pay frequent medical fees, AP, EAD fees, and yes YOU can always TRACK RNs for them. You can whine, post your opinions, when we change policies on the fly and create more hardships even if you have stayed here for more than 6 years, you can call up our customer service, be imaginative and get to level 2 and still get yelled at, asked to wait for 90 days (std reply), etc, but you can always go to good forum like IV and instead of working on your cause, create confusion, DEMAND action, not contribute....etc.
H1B applicant:--> SO WHAT IS THE CATCH.
IO:--> YOU THA MAN. Welcome to USA. Land of the free home of the brave. But for you there will be no freedom and for your type..stay in fear.
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Hope one more catch the vision of IV
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kalyan
05-21 11:38 AM
recently they were worked or worked to accomodate people working in US Army to be eligible if one in their family has ITIN.
Then why there are not looking at Legal Immigrants.
Then why there are not looking at Legal Immigrants.
H1B-GC
06-10 02:17 PM
EB2 China - No Change
EB2 India - October 1st 2005
Good luck to all those who are current!!
EB2 India - October 1st 2005
Good luck to all those who are current!!
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ItIsNotFunny
06-02 09:41 AM
Good job. Best of luck to all of us.
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jsb
08-19 02:47 PM
If you have plans of doing an MBA in future, then Canada would be a better option than US. Otherwise as uma001 points out, doors are closed for most professions except 38 occupations.
H1bslave, in your case your PD is Sep 5 EB2. I see something in the distant horizon. PD of 2007 and beyond or EB3-India I see no hope.
Atleast you can survive on a lifeboat called EAD and AC21.
Note that list of occupations changes constantly. I lived in Canada for 20 years after coming as PR on point system. It works well there, if you think money is not everything. Education is equally good. People, of course are far nicer and friendlier. Even border immigration and custom staff show a friendly face and attitude..
H1bslave, in your case your PD is Sep 5 EB2. I see something in the distant horizon. PD of 2007 and beyond or EB3-India I see no hope.
Atleast you can survive on a lifeboat called EAD and AC21.
Note that list of occupations changes constantly. I lived in Canada for 20 years after coming as PR on point system. It works well there, if you think money is not everything. Education is equally good. People, of course are far nicer and friendlier. Even border immigration and custom staff show a friendly face and attitude..
ufo2002
11-08 04:33 PM
Let me ask you the opposite question : How does NOT passing CIR help us ?
I bet you don't have a convincing answer for that. Therefroe, it follows that CIR (even if it is not ideal) will be better than no bill being passed.
And all those anti-CIR folks please get this : It does NOT give instant citizenship to anyone, nor does it put these folks ahead of us in the line. Thats just rhetoric from the likes of numbersUSA and lou dobbs blindly being parroted by some morons/idiots/imbeciles here. The core team had repeated this several times when CIR was under discussion. CIR is definitely not ideal for us because of the possibility of collateral effect from USCIS being overwhelmed, but is that worse than our current situation of waiting till retirement for our PDs to become current ?
As rheoretro mentioned in an earlier post "Burning someone else's house down is not going to help us build our own". That is particularly true for us .. those who who are against illegal aliens are also against high skilled legals with a few honorable exceptions like Cornyn and Kyl. If that wasnt the case, the house and the senate would have passed SKIL in a jiffy by now. Its best for us to remain neutral on the illegal alien issue .. and back it to the extent that it benefits us through a piggy back ride.
Actually I do have a convincing answer... whether or not that bill passes, we are in a lose-lose situation. I have read the bill (not in its entirety like I already stated). I know that the amnesty section already specified there will be no immediate granting of citizenship, excepting the wording for those who have been in this country for more than 5/6 years seems to imply they would get citizenship (again, the way a bill is worded can be twisted in future).
What I am worried about is, I get the feeling this is going to end up dipping into our EB3 pool... we previously had a Sched A for physicians and nurses that took numbers out of EB3 exclusively for them.
And I don't listen to Lou Dobbs or NumbersUSA rantings. But if you kept your ears open more than 6 months ago, you would also have heard some Dems says some not-so-friendly things about us.
One prominent Dem senator said H1-Bs are not suffering as much as illegals.
Another prominent Dem said this country needed more farm workers, not more IT / skilled ppl.
Have a nice day, anyway.
I bet you don't have a convincing answer for that. Therefroe, it follows that CIR (even if it is not ideal) will be better than no bill being passed.
And all those anti-CIR folks please get this : It does NOT give instant citizenship to anyone, nor does it put these folks ahead of us in the line. Thats just rhetoric from the likes of numbersUSA and lou dobbs blindly being parroted by some morons/idiots/imbeciles here. The core team had repeated this several times when CIR was under discussion. CIR is definitely not ideal for us because of the possibility of collateral effect from USCIS being overwhelmed, but is that worse than our current situation of waiting till retirement for our PDs to become current ?
As rheoretro mentioned in an earlier post "Burning someone else's house down is not going to help us build our own". That is particularly true for us .. those who who are against illegal aliens are also against high skilled legals with a few honorable exceptions like Cornyn and Kyl. If that wasnt the case, the house and the senate would have passed SKIL in a jiffy by now. Its best for us to remain neutral on the illegal alien issue .. and back it to the extent that it benefits us through a piggy back ride.
Actually I do have a convincing answer... whether or not that bill passes, we are in a lose-lose situation. I have read the bill (not in its entirety like I already stated). I know that the amnesty section already specified there will be no immediate granting of citizenship, excepting the wording for those who have been in this country for more than 5/6 years seems to imply they would get citizenship (again, the way a bill is worded can be twisted in future).
What I am worried about is, I get the feeling this is going to end up dipping into our EB3 pool... we previously had a Sched A for physicians and nurses that took numbers out of EB3 exclusively for them.
And I don't listen to Lou Dobbs or NumbersUSA rantings. But if you kept your ears open more than 6 months ago, you would also have heard some Dems says some not-so-friendly things about us.
One prominent Dem senator said H1-Bs are not suffering as much as illegals.
Another prominent Dem said this country needed more farm workers, not more IT / skilled ppl.
Have a nice day, anyway.
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gconmymind
02-29 05:03 PM
Sent only two letters. Encouraged six others to send. Good work guys, keep it up!
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Macaca
09-17 02:27 PM
Some people hear
their own inner voices
with great clearness.
And they live by what they hear.
Such people become crazy ...
or they become legend
Jim Harrison, Legend of the Falls
their own inner voices
with great clearness.
And they live by what they hear.
Such people become crazy ...
or they become legend
Jim Harrison, Legend of the Falls
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Legal
07-15 06:17 PM
I see ur predictions coming true, but with a big BUT, the flow "EB1 ROW/EB1 INDIA --> EB2 ROW/ EB2India/ EB2China-->EB3ROW/EB3 INDIA." may be a make-shift approach just to use up leftover visas for this year. This is not a published rule anywhere. So how can u be so certain based on Ron Gotcher or how can he be so certain that this gonna be the approach going forward.
The DOS after consulting with attorneys and the Congress has concluded that EB visa numbers should spill over horizontally rather than vertically. Relevent legal clauses addressing this issue were posted by IV members yesterday. DOS now admits it's previous interpretation of vertical spill over (excess visas going to EB-3 ROW) was wrong. Can it be challenged or reversed?, Of course possible but very unlikely to happen in the near future in the next several months.
All said and done, I'll say vdlrao calculations with (sumagiri correction:) look credible.
The DOS after consulting with attorneys and the Congress has concluded that EB visa numbers should spill over horizontally rather than vertically. Relevent legal clauses addressing this issue were posted by IV members yesterday. DOS now admits it's previous interpretation of vertical spill over (excess visas going to EB-3 ROW) was wrong. Can it be challenged or reversed?, Of course possible but very unlikely to happen in the near future in the next several months.
All said and done, I'll say vdlrao calculations with (sumagiri correction:) look credible.
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Abhinaym
05-17 02:46 PM
Thank you for making it so very easy!
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gc_maine2
06-30 08:46 AM
This is an excellent news logiclife.
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06-29 09:46 PM
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07-20 10:46 AM
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nat23
06-26 02:08 PM
Do we have a list of agreed upon amendments or is it still being negotiated and we are going to see it only on the Senate floor?
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immigrationmatters30
02-14 07:49 PM
Nice Post hydboy!! Quick question though, Would you have put the same argument if you have not filed your EAD during july 2007? Guess not..Let us stop this..now.I agree with what you are saying,by the way.
I hear some people saying childish things like hijacking this thread if anybody says anything different from what they say. What do you prefer, should I open another thread with title "oppose prefiling AOS", nobody wins neither will I or you when somebody does that. Please tolerate others views then they will tolerate yours.
Without strengthening AC21 if you allow everyone to file AOS then anti eb folks like Grassley, Sanders, Sessions, Durbin will move from targeting H1b to targeting EAD. It takes 6 months to get Perm approval, with pre filing AOS everyone can get EAD in 6 months, anti eb folks and USCIS know that people will be jumping to EAD to escape H1 crackdown, what do you think they will do, they will add amendments and Bills to put restrictions on hiring EAD just like they put restrictions on hiring H1b. We cannot make EAD into another H1b like hell.
Prefiling should be done to give relief to people who missed July fiasco only after
1. Remove\dilute same similar job requirement
2. Make sure EAD is extended without any rfe. USCIS will invent thousand things to issue rfe, EAD should be in a different league to h1 and it should not turn into another h1 where you are slapped with rfe left right and center. Example Pay stub rfe, ability to pay rfe, customer Purchase order RFE etc etc etc, Green card holders don�t have any problem working in these same jobs so why should EAD people face this nonsense (otherwise it is just like h1). Before people complain this will become like a green card, lets me answer in advance, if a person from ROW can get his green card within 12 months of coming to US, why cannot people from India\china who have worked in US for the last 5 to 10 years get the above mentioned relief on EAD. EAD should be superior to h1.the only restriction should be you should work in the same field, i.e. if your labor certification is for Software engineer, programmer analyst etc , then you work in a software related job and cannot become a greeter in walmart :-)
Without strengthening EAD\AC21 with the above mentioned items you are turning EAD into just another h1.If we push for prefiling AOS without strengthening Ac21 it is a big disadvantage and slap on the face for all the people with older priority date. Because of July fiasco when everybody got current and filed for AOS, USCIS issued GC to people from 2006 leaving behind people from 2003, 04 and 05. USCIS should have gradually moved the dates from 2003 to 04 to 05 that way people with older PD would have got it first. With prefiling AOS it will become a lottery like in August 2008 where 2006 PD got GC over 03,04 and 05 in eb2. Safeguards have to be put in place for order of priority date otherwise USCIS will indulge in this lottery mode and excuse there behavior by claiming they did this to save visa wastage.
I hear some people saying childish things like hijacking this thread if anybody says anything different from what they say. What do you prefer, should I open another thread with title "oppose prefiling AOS", nobody wins neither will I or you when somebody does that. Please tolerate others views then they will tolerate yours.
Without strengthening AC21 if you allow everyone to file AOS then anti eb folks like Grassley, Sanders, Sessions, Durbin will move from targeting H1b to targeting EAD. It takes 6 months to get Perm approval, with pre filing AOS everyone can get EAD in 6 months, anti eb folks and USCIS know that people will be jumping to EAD to escape H1 crackdown, what do you think they will do, they will add amendments and Bills to put restrictions on hiring EAD just like they put restrictions on hiring H1b. We cannot make EAD into another H1b like hell.
Prefiling should be done to give relief to people who missed July fiasco only after
1. Remove\dilute same similar job requirement
2. Make sure EAD is extended without any rfe. USCIS will invent thousand things to issue rfe, EAD should be in a different league to h1 and it should not turn into another h1 where you are slapped with rfe left right and center. Example Pay stub rfe, ability to pay rfe, customer Purchase order RFE etc etc etc, Green card holders don�t have any problem working in these same jobs so why should EAD people face this nonsense (otherwise it is just like h1). Before people complain this will become like a green card, lets me answer in advance, if a person from ROW can get his green card within 12 months of coming to US, why cannot people from India\china who have worked in US for the last 5 to 10 years get the above mentioned relief on EAD. EAD should be superior to h1.the only restriction should be you should work in the same field, i.e. if your labor certification is for Software engineer, programmer analyst etc , then you work in a software related job and cannot become a greeter in walmart :-)
Without strengthening EAD\AC21 with the above mentioned items you are turning EAD into just another h1.If we push for prefiling AOS without strengthening Ac21 it is a big disadvantage and slap on the face for all the people with older priority date. Because of July fiasco when everybody got current and filed for AOS, USCIS issued GC to people from 2006 leaving behind people from 2003, 04 and 05. USCIS should have gradually moved the dates from 2003 to 04 to 05 that way people with older PD would have got it first. With prefiling AOS it will become a lottery like in August 2008 where 2006 PD got GC over 03,04 and 05 in eb2. Safeguards have to be put in place for order of priority date otherwise USCIS will indulge in this lottery mode and excuse there behavior by claiming they did this to save visa wastage.
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Michael chertoff
03-26 11:00 PM
EB3 porting is a loophole like labor substitution.
when I came here 6 yrs ago, I had the option of applying in EB3 with a top 4 consulting US firm and I did not want to go that route. I waited until 2010 to apply in EB2.
Looks like People should come to the US as freshers or with 1-2 yrs experience > Apply in EB3 > Gain 5-6 yrs in experience > Port and BOOM, you have your GC.
How can people claim PD porting at a later date when they were not eligible on that specific date in the first place at that time? I know it's legal just like Labor Substitution.
Thats what i am saying. Agreed.
when I came here 6 yrs ago, I had the option of applying in EB3 with a top 4 consulting US firm and I did not want to go that route. I waited until 2010 to apply in EB2.
Looks like People should come to the US as freshers or with 1-2 yrs experience > Apply in EB3 > Gain 5-6 yrs in experience > Port and BOOM, you have your GC.
How can people claim PD porting at a later date when they were not eligible on that specific date in the first place at that time? I know it's legal just like Labor Substitution.
Thats what i am saying. Agreed.
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angelfire76
05-29 09:37 PM
By AF. It was an OK experience, except for the fact that they loot you on the transit visa fee. Also CDG airport has got to be the busiest but one of the worst airports in Europe. My baggage landed in Mumbai instead of New Delhi, but was sent to me by courier in 2 days time.
Also don't ask a second time for the I-94 form, as the stewardess will frown and shove it in your face. :p
Next time I shall pony up the additional fare for Thai, Singapore or Malaysian and never flying a European route again.
Also don't ask a second time for the I-94 form, as the stewardess will frown and shove it in your face. :p
Next time I shall pony up the additional fare for Thai, Singapore or Malaysian and never flying a European route again.
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04-17 01:03 PM
My experience with them has been great. I would hire them any day. I could call or meet my attorney/ paralegal anytime and all my paperwork has been filed very promptly. I never had any issues
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Prasad_FL
05-19 07:22 PM
I have donated $100. Transaction ID: 37W122922L450784L. I have reserved my tickets to DC(June 5th - 9th).
Go IV.
Go IV.
Michael chertoff
03-27 08:30 AM
You are right in acknowledging that you may be wrong. Where you may be wrong? Maybe your "opinion" that EB2 should be given GC first before a single EB3 is entertained. Maybe the first-come-first-served argument is the valid one after all.
How does "my" argument make sense? I say, ok, give priority to EB2, but only within the same year. So, last years' EB3 has to be allocated first, before this year's EB2/EB3 are considered. And for this year, dont process EB3's unless EB2's for this year are done
But, do you realize, all our opinions are moot? Come back to reality, and we immigrant community as a whole, get to ask only ONE wish. Using your wisdom, what should that one wish be? Ikken Hissatsu. Kill with one blow.
Ok sir.. I lose you won.. keep porting.
How does "my" argument make sense? I say, ok, give priority to EB2, but only within the same year. So, last years' EB3 has to be allocated first, before this year's EB2/EB3 are considered. And for this year, dont process EB3's unless EB2's for this year are done
But, do you realize, all our opinions are moot? Come back to reality, and we immigrant community as a whole, get to ask only ONE wish. Using your wisdom, what should that one wish be? Ikken Hissatsu. Kill with one blow.
Ok sir.. I lose you won.. keep porting.
goel_ar
03-29 10:35 AM
I read the news too at The Oh Law Firm (http://www.immigration-law.com/)
Hope this hold and comes true. All the best to my brothers and me.
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Hope this hold and comes true. All the best to my brothers and me.
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